Supliments to boost iron chelation

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Supliments to boost iron chelation
« on: April 07, 2009, 06:43:02 AM »
Hey everyone!

Does anyone know any supliments to boost the effects of exjade. help iron chelation so it can absorb aalot of iron. 2 months ago my ferr was 1500 and in a month i reduced it to 1025 and i didnt know how i did it. i was taking l-carnitine and ate pomegrate. but i dont know if it would of done anything.

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2009, 08:00:46 AM »
Hi Tyson

Supplements that are taken with chelators were vitamin C ( releases more iron in the plasma and therefore allows more iron to be chelated out of the system)  but taken only with desferal. No studies about taking it wiith exjade.

But what is a good one to be used with all chelators is the IP6.  It is a natural chelator, helps to reduce the damage of iron overload on the cells and therefore reduce the organ damage caused by the loaded iron (antioxidant). There are a lot more benefits for IP6 that you can read about in the following links

http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php?topic=1229.0;highlight=ip6

http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php?topic=2641.0;highlight=ip6

http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php?topic=1177.0;highlight=ip6

http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php?topic=874.0;highlight=ip6

http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php?topic=118.0;highlight=ip6

http://www.thalassemiapatientsandfriends.com/index.php?topic=819.0;highlight=ip6

manal


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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 10:29:37 AM »
Taking tea with meals will help you not to absorb much iron from food,it doesn't help in chelating iron but it won't let iron to be absorbed as much as it would from food.

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2009, 03:40:44 PM »
Pomegranate juice is high in antioxidants and vitamins and also has some iron chelation properties. Contrary to the claims on many "health" sites, pomegranate is not high in iron and its ability to counter anemia has far more to do with the other vitamins and minerals it contains. One cup of pomegranate juice contains only .25 mg iron. Please keep taking both pomegranate juice and L-carnitine and let us know what your future ferritin results are.

Pomegranate juice is one more of the fruits than can be very beneficial to thalassemics and also anyone with anemia. It also has been shown to have very positive qualities in both reducing cholesterol and protecting the heart.

And a side note about taking Exjade. The Cooley's Anemia Foundation is reporting that Exjade can also be mixed with Koolaid and Gatorade. I think this list will lengthen.
Andy

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 08:44:21 PM »
Andy,

It is good to know about the pomegranite juice.  I was giving lil A pomegranite juice daily before, but then I stopped because I was afraid that I may be giving him too much sugar.  I wondered if giving him actual pomegranite would be better than giving him the juice - is this the case?

I think that thal minors may benefit from pomegranites in terms of increased hemoglobin levels as well.  Pomegranite may also be beneficial to thal intermedias, both because of the increase in antioxidants and possibly hg levels.   

Sharmin
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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 04:14:05 AM »
dear all :huh

use vit c but not more than 100 mg with desferal and if heart is involved not use more than 50 mg daily(1-2 mg/kg/day is dose), vit A,C,E are anti oxidants ,they help a lot along this zinc has some importance, its better to give multivitamin containing these three vitamins.

erum minhas :wink

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 04:39:49 AM »
Dear Dr Erum,

Can you tell me any brand name of multivitamin and minerals which does not contain any iron? And have trace elements such as copper and selenium too?

I am also looking for a B-Complex for my daughter,i bought Surbex syrup but it contains 100 mg Vitamin C :( .

Thanks for your input :)

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2009, 08:26:06 AM »
if i take inositol will it do anything or does it have to be inositol hexaphosphate?
I cant find IP6 where where i am :(

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2009, 04:07:51 PM »
hey i think pomegranate is good for iron defficiency anemia , as i red some diet charts on few site , in those chart they mentioned some food and vegies those was rich in iron  like green leafy vegies , i think we have to figure out it first that pomegranate  is good for which type of anemia and wat is the mechanism of work according to that they are claiming that  pomegranate is good .. i researched on a few fruits amost alll the fruits & vegies which are anti-oxidant are rich in iron as well , e.g Beetroot  that is a good anti-oxidant but hhas alot of iron as well , nearly 1mg iron per 150gram ( not sure, and a alittle Vit-c as well to absorp iron .. soo al amost all anti-oxidant fruits n vegies also contains Iron and vit-c  ... and also pomergranate as well ..  i think , food and nutrients mechanism varies between thals and non-thals , like its common saying that red meat is good and it make blood , but you know that in wat way red meat help'es body to make healthy/blood ..... thats wat i think and need your feedback as well ... soo please correct me if i m wrng , i wll appreciate the correction .... thats wat i wana say .........

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2009, 04:36:25 PM »
Umair,

You need to make a distinction between foods that have heme iron and those with non-heme iron. Meats contain the much more readily absorbed heme iron, while plant foods contain non-heme iron, which is very poorly absorbed. Also, 1 mg iron is not much and you easily get anywhere from 10-20 mg iron from your diet daily. The antioxidant value of fruits far outweighs any concern about iron content. One whole pomegranate contains .8 mg iron. If you look at any fruit or vegetable you have similar results. The iron is only a small factor on why these foods are good for blood building. They are loaded with vitamins and trace minerals and have great antioxidant value. By the way, one unit of blood contains a whopping 250 mg iron. This should really put things in perspective. Do not deprive yourself of the antioxidants and trace minerals in fruits and vegetables when it is the blood itself that is the main source of excess iron in your body.
Andy

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Re: Supliments to boost iron chelation
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2009, 09:31:52 PM »
Thanx Andy ,
for explaining it again , i dont know how and why i m getting too much iron conscious ...
anywayz , thanx buddy ...

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Umair
Sometimes , God breaks our spirit to save our soul.
Sometimes , He breaks our heart to make us whole.
Sometimes , He sends us pain so we can be stronger.
Sometimes , He sends us failure so we can be humble.
Sometimes , He sends us illness so we can take better care of our selves.
Sometimes , He takes everything away from us so we can learn the value of everything we have.

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