Gaza massacre

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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #90 on: January 16, 2009, 06:58:03 PM »
What i wonder is,if US citizens can see it's wrong,and many Non Muslims are condemning it,we are seeing protests being held in many countries of the world,what is the reaction of Israeli people? Do they justify children's killings? Do they think that their own kids are safe while other kids are being mutilated?
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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #91 on: January 16, 2009, 07:02:37 PM »
The vast majority of US citizens see Israel as completely right and rejoice at the death of Muslims. It's quite sick.
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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #92 on: January 16, 2009, 07:10:29 PM »
Oh! I thought may be now a days when media sources are available every where in many forms,they must have tried to look for what's truth,alas  :( . That's sad.US is a very powerful country in the world and it it's citizens aren't going to realize the truth ,they'll keep electing people who'll keep going on with the same murderous policies,and nothing will change.
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« Reply #93 on: January 16, 2009, 09:53:08 PM »
The vast majority of US citizens see Israel as completely right and rejoice at the death of Muslims. It's quite sick.
Andy, correct me if I'm wrong,I am of the opinion that the US congress is made of a body of Jews.
And also the Jews has infiltrated most of businesses In the US. Without this Kind of power, they wouldn't be able to do what they are doing now.
What a pitty they are distroying the same thing that they are fighting for. How stupid is that???????????
I often wonder if people realise that we come to earth, with nothing and leave this world with nothing.
Senseless : ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Little that we all know,this war affects everyone in the world, direct or indirectly we will  pay a price.
Emotionally    and  economically,
Therefor we are all in the same boat, we Cann't  afford the luxury of happiness     at the expence of everybody elses' misery.
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« Reply #94 on: January 16, 2009, 10:15:35 PM »
http://www.alternet.org/audits/120197/

What can I add other than, how can anyone on earth support this?
Andy
I believe people support this, because they feel powerless, greedy, selfish.
they are not thinking of the consequences of the aftermath.How it will affects us all
they think, its over there and its not our worries, basically, we are all too busy with material things which overtakes priority in our daily lives.
It is a sad state of affairs because some of us has no ampathy towards other Human-beings
Kathy

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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #95 on: January 17, 2009, 12:36:23 AM »
Kathy,

The Congress is not mostly made up of Jews, although one of New York's senators is Schumer who is the most completely useless politician who has yet to do a single thing to represent the people of New York, but since he is Jewish he does get re-elected. However, I think there needs to be a distinction between Jews and Israel. Many Jews oppose the actions of Israel over the past 60 years. Many feel the horror just as we do. I don't want to label Jews anymore than Muslims should be labeled for the acts of a few who claim to be Muslim but follow no Muslim beliefs. In the US it is so politically incorrect to ever say a word against Jews that it is almost impossible to get the truth to the people. The media shows such a one-sided view that most Americans think that killing Muslims anywhere is good for the world. For any intelligent being who knows enough to NOT believe every idiotic thing that the government promotes through the media, it is hard to understand how people accept every new false statement that the government makes. Most Americans now accept that we invaded Iraq under false pretenses, yet most of these same people believe the lies that Israel and the US have promoted to justify this genocidal invasion.


You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abraham Lincoln

Unfortunately, the some of the people who can be fooled ALL of the time, is now the majority and this is true everywhere on earth.
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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #96 on: January 17, 2009, 01:40:32 AM »
This genocide will end when Obama makes his ''first'' speech in the coming days. He will talk about the situation in one or two lines and will invite the two parties for negociation either directly or indirectly... the same old scenario that happened before in the other masacares like Jenein for example........ I believe that this was known before hand


Kathy,i agree about what Andy said concerning Jews
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I think there needs to be a distinction between Jews and Israel.
Not all Jews are Zionests

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« Reply #97 on: January 17, 2009, 04:59:33 AM »
Thank-you Andy ,
I appreciate the education,
At times, I read too much  nonesense :rotfl :rotfl , politics interest me ,I  have the need to know, how any society functions

thank-you Manal for the clarification.

I need to learn more, its very interesting,
Kathy

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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #98 on: January 17, 2009, 10:45:12 AM »
I could have annihilated all the Jews in the world, but I left some of them so you will know why I was killing them.

Adolf Hitler said in his book "My Struggle"
Falling down is not defeat... Defeat is when you refuse to get up...
The one who kneels to Allah, can standup to anything.

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« Reply #99 on: January 17, 2009, 11:01:01 AM »
Tarig, I do not understand you. And if I do, I hope I understand you wrong.

Kathy, I love politics. I love to learn new things about (almost) everything. Three years ago I started to chat with a Russian guy. He was really an eyeopener for me. When I look back to the past I do not understand why I did believe everything they said. (I believe that Georgia is the one to blame about the war of the summer, the gas row is very complicated) Btw there is a book about the Israel lobby it is called The Israel Lobby (and U.S. Foreign Policy) written by John J. Mearsheimer & Stephen M. Walt.

Manal, Israel made a one-sided resolution with the US. Gaza Strip will be a zoo or something. It is unbelievable. I can not even find words for it. All those children are too traumatize. They will never leave this behind them.

Andy, I love that saying.

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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #100 on: January 17, 2009, 12:29:07 PM »
all the wordl is protesting against isreal, then wat is the thing behind israel whichis psuhing israel forward to this all ???....
why they are doing this , why they are killing the innocents why they are spreadnig the anger for israel in whole world by kiling palestinian ??? does Israelian like wat their government is doing ???..
if yes then why ?? or if not then why they dont try to stop their government ???... 
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I could have annihilated all the Jews in the world, but I left some of them so you will know why I was killing them.
Adolf Hitler said in his book "My Struggle"
so we got to know why he was doing that !..

Note : if hitler was doing genocide killing then he was alos wrong , and now israel is doing the same he is wrongand condemnable as well ... i thiink jews have tasted the wound of genocide kiling so they have to avoid all the thing like this , they have to thanx Arab's bcoze Arabs gave them a home to live when they was down .... arab were soo kind when Jews was facing the difficulties many of them were killed and many of them had no shelter , arabs gave them the place and shelter ..... and wat Jews are doing with them ..killing the people who were the friends of their difficult times ... IT SHOULD BE STOPPed NOW !!

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Sometimes , He breaks our heart to make us whole.
Sometimes , He sends us pain so we can be stronger.
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Sometimes , He takes everything away from us so we can learn the value of everything we have.

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« Reply #101 on: January 17, 2009, 03:49:29 PM »
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Note : if hitler was doing genocide killing then he was alos wrong


He absolutely did do that. Sadly, (when he was here) the Netherlands did help him a lot (like other countries), but even my grandfather's family fight for the rights of Jews people.

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and now israel is doing the same he is wrongand condemnable as well ... i thiink jews have tasted the wound of genocide kiling so they have to avoid all the thing like this , they have to thanx Arab's bcoze Arabs gave them a home to live when they was down .... arab were soo kind when Jews was facing the difficulties many of them were killed and many of them had no shelter , arabs gave them the place and shelter ..... and wat Jews are doing with them ..killing the people who were the friends of their difficult times ...

I think that every human must know what love of one's neighbour is. We do a lot of good things by talking to each other. To be honest, I never talked with people from Pakistan, Egypte e.g. before. It is like the story I told hear before.

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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #102 on: January 17, 2009, 05:02:32 PM »
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Tariq, I do not understand you. And if I do, I hope I understand you wrong.

I just shared a quote thats all. I didn't and would never agree to Hitler's acts. Killing people is wrong, simple as that. Its just that since whole world condemns Hitler so much that his name is now used as an adjective like "Don't be Hitler to everyone" etc. But what is done to Palestinians is almost of same degree. I hope you understand me right this time.
Falling down is not defeat... Defeat is when you refuse to get up...
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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #103 on: January 17, 2009, 06:21:25 PM »
I just shared a quote thats all. I didn't and would never agree to Hitler's acts. Killing people is wrong, simple as that. Its just that since whole world condemns Hitler so much that his name is now used as an adjective like "Don't be Hitler to everyone" etc. But what is done to Palestinians is almost of same degree. I hope you understand me right this time.

Yes, now I do

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Re: Gaza massacre
« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2009, 06:24:54 PM »
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The media shows such a one-sided view that most Americans think that killing Muslims anywhere is good for the world. For any intelligent being who knows enough to NOT believe every idiotic thing that the government promotes through the media, it is hard to understand how people accept every new false statement that the government makes. Most Americans now accept that we invaded Iraq under false pretenses, yet most of these same people believe the lies that Israel and the US have promoted to justify this genocidal invasion.

That's plain ignorance,as true information is only clicks away now a days,i took Andy's thoughts to be American thoughts on general,i thought many of Americans might see the situation like Andy or Sharmin or Kathy.It's very sad and unfortunate that it's not the case.

On the other hand muslims are equally responsible for whatever is happening,i heard Husne Mubarak  went against of calling the Arab league meeting,i don't know why.

If we Muslims aren't going to help them,how can we expect anyone else to do so.

Zaini.
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