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Offline kabir_love

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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2009, 06:05:34 AM »
thx zaini i was having problem with 2 post cauz cant upload more then 5 reports together thats y.
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attached our and our son mutations reports aswell.


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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2009, 06:19:30 AM »
Micky,

The report indicates clearly that your daughter is a thal minor,so what Andy said makes complete sense.

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To be honest, thalassemia alone would make no sense for this reaction. It could possibly be thal minor combined with another factor.

Doctors need to find this other factor.

Zaini.

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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2009, 06:30:48 AM »
Mickey,

Please make sure that the Rh factor has been considered and also the second possibility in bold below. Are bilirubin levels and reticulocyte higher than normal? This may not be related to thalassemia at all and determining why hyperhemolysis has been taking place is most important. Even a thal major would not have this severe condition at this age. Has there been a Coombs test? Has an exchange transfusion been considered?

http://wo-pub2.med.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/PublicA.woa/1/wa/viewHContent?website=wmc+pediatrics&contentID=2368&wosid=9JvrhOwEKQQPce3AcKttjw
   
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What causes hemolytic disease of the newborn (HDN)?
   HDN most frequently occurs when an Rh negative mother has a baby with an Rh positive father. When the baby's Rh factor is positive, like the father's, problems can develop if the baby's red blood cells cross to the Rh negative mother. This usually happens at delivery when the placenta detaches. However, it may also happen anytime blood cells of the two circulations mix, such as during a miscarriage or abortion, with a fall, or during an invasive prenatal testing procedure (i.e., an amniocentesis or chorionic villus sampling).

The mother's immune system sees the baby's Rh positive red blood cells as "foreign." Just as when bacteria invade the body, the immune system responds by developing antibodies to fight and destroy these foreign cells. The mother's immune system then keeps the antibodies in case the foreign cells appear again, even in a future pregnancy. The mother is now "Rh sensitized."

Although it is not as common, a similar problem of incompatibility may happen between the blood types (A, B, O, AB) of the mother and baby in the following situations:

   

Mother's Blood Type               Baby's Blood Type
   

O                                            A or B
   

A                                           B
   

B                                          A
   
In a first pregnancy, Rh sensitization is not likely. Usually it only becomes a problem in a future pregnancy with another Rh positive baby. During that pregnancy, the mother's antibodies cross the placenta to fight the Rh positive cells in the baby's body. As the antibodies destroy the red blood cells, the baby can become sick. This is called erythroblastosis fetalis during pregnancy. In the newborn, the condition is called hemolytic disease of the newborn.
Andy

All we are saying is give thals a chance.

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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2009, 06:34:28 AM »
hi andy
we had done rh factor test we both parents are b+  and our baby also b+ also we had done rh antigen test done they are also ok. done and confirmed ... also
mycopalsma is negative.
DCT test negative.

now doctors are thinking of doing  liver biopsy. dont know what they are thinking of.

AS PER ANDY SAID WE CHECKED WITH DOCTOR

PAROVIRUS - NEGATIVE
MYCOPLASAMA - NEGATIVE
TORCH - ALL NEGAVTIVE
HIV - NEGATIVE
LDH - HIGH (254)
D DIMER- NORMAL
CULTURE STERLIE
ERYTHROID SERIES - NORMAL
MEGAKARYOCYTES - ADEQUATE
PLATLETS - 1.50 ( TO MUCH UPS AND DOWN .50 TO 1.50 )
NO AVIDENCE OF HYDROCEPHALUS AND HEMMORRHAGE IS SEEN IN LIVER , SLPEEN AND STOMACH.
CYTOMEGALO VIRUS (CMV) - NEGATIVE.
HSV - NEGATIVE
TANDEM MASS SPECTROMETRY (AMINO ACID,ORGANIC ACID, FATTY ACID, METABOLISIM  ALL NORMAL)
HBF- 70%, HBA2- 26% ( DONE AT 35 DAYS OF BIRTH)
HYPO THAROIDISM - NORMAL
TITRE OF INCOMPLETE ANTIBODIES - NEGATIVE
DIRECT ANTI HUMAN GLOBLIN TEST - NEGATIVE
RH FACTOR - NORMAL.
RH ANTIBODIES - NORMAL.
HDN TEST - NORMAL.

Kell system antibodies - TEST NOT DONE
Duffy system antibodies - TEST NOT DONE
« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 07:51:26 AM by kabir_love »

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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2009, 07:10:27 AM »
Mickey,

I am praying that your daughter will be fine.  It must be so difficult having your newborn go through so many tests.  I hope that they diagnose her condition and resolve it very soon. 

Sharmin
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2009, 11:06:49 AM »


    My prayer's are with you and your family. Be strong and don't give up!  :hugfriend
LYANNE :yahoo

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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2009, 11:59:44 AM »
Hi Micky
I just don`t know what to say. Be strong, this is just a temporary phase and Inshallah your baby will be fine and home. Our prayers are with you and your baby.

maha

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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2009, 02:28:53 PM »
Praying for you :hugfriend Please keep updating
manal

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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2009, 04:32:39 PM »
You are are in our prayers.

Be strong!!!

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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2009, 04:49:05 PM »
Mickey,

These last two tests do need to be run. It should have already been done and why it wasn't is not understandable.
 "Kell system antibodies - TEST NOT DONE
Duffy system antibodies - TEST NOT DONE"

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/974349-overview

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Although the Rh antibody was and still is the most common cause of severe HDN, other alloimmune antibodies belonging to Kell (K and k), Duffy (Fya), Kidd (Jka and Jkb), and MNSs (M, N, S, and s) systems do cause severe HDN.

Is the baby breastfeeding or on formula?
Andy

All we are saying is give thals a chance.

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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2009, 03:26:22 PM »
Mickey,

How is your baby doing now?  Have the Kell system antibodies and Duffy system antibodies tests been done? 

Praying that everything will be better soon,

Sharmin
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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2009, 09:07:02 PM »
We are waiting for your update Micky,hoping everything is going back to normal,our prayers are with your little angel.

Zaini.
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« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2009, 03:56:23 AM »
Hi Micky
How`s your baby doing now ? She is always in my thoughts and everytime in my prayers. Hope you have something good and positive to write soon.
take care
maha

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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2009, 04:10:20 AM »
Mickey,

We are praying for your family and awaiting your post.  We hope that you have good news to share with us.  God bless the little princess.

Sharmin
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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2009, 05:40:10 AM »
we had done CT -SCAN of the abdomen on friday and result came on sat. is not good. we can see many lymphosides  . like small samll things in the xray every where and some thick fulid of lymphosides in spleen and kideny. doctors had discuss 4 possiblites of problem ill know today there one but one is  HLH and for other they are collecting the urine of my baby and will do test from that to check. ill get the copy of ct scan today report and will scan here. dont know yet .


 

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