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Title: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on June 08, 2017, 04:54:24 AM
My son is 20 months and is beta+ thal and sickle cell .he has
 taken hydroxyurea and folic acid plus lots of vitamins last 8 months.
He is currently doing fine and much active.  his  hb which is 8 to 9 last one year consistently.

HBF was 35.7 % and HBA was at 17.3 % HB S 42.9 and HB A2 4.1 % and no any blood transfusion ever.

Me carrier and my wife sickle cell and my question is we can take a chance for 2nd baby?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on June 12, 2017, 12:23:35 AM
There is the same possibility with every pregnancy. The only way to be sure and avoid having another affected child is by using PGD and IVF, a costly process that can take multiple attempts to succeed.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on June 12, 2017, 03:07:01 AM
Thanks dear for help me. Please tell me in detail what is  PGD and IVF?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on June 12, 2017, 08:03:47 PM
PGD is preimplantation genetic diagnosis. The embryos are checked for status, so a non-carrier embryo is implanted via IVF, in vitro fertilization.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on June 13, 2017, 03:05:50 AM
Thanks Dear for reply me.
we take chance because 25% Chance for major thal 25% chance for normal and 50% for carrier so can we Plan?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on June 15, 2017, 04:41:00 PM
You can't plan anything based on chance. I know many families with three thal majors. The mathematical chances mean nothing.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on June 16, 2017, 04:04:58 AM
you said that we can not plan?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on June 17, 2017, 12:30:43 AM
No, it's completely chance and can't be affected by anything you do. You could easily have another child with the same sickle cell beta thal.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Lokkhi maa on June 17, 2017, 08:58:40 AM

I know a family both of they are carrier and they not take any child within 12 yrs.

Last year they take a chance and after 13 yrs fortunately they got a child who is carrier.

But couple like us which chances not successful...
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on June 24, 2017, 05:30:36 PM
It's all just chance.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Lokkhi maa on July 11, 2017, 09:09:38 AM
 :sadyup :sadyup

My First child who is 4 yrs old have E Beta Thalassemiia and need monthly transfusion,She have also ADHD,mild Autism Symptom and Seizure disorder. ??? ???

Though she have lot of disorders but she is so much active and intelligent and special memory  :). She have not forgot anything if she saw that just one time.Her seizure completely under control and now fine.Last seizure happen on 2014.Last month her EEG report is normal. :hugfriend

Every development normal but speech still not improve.She pointing,follow every instructions,understand our every languages,operate computer,play computer game but her words are few.

Now I have started Fish oil for her speech problem.

Dear Andy you know my present physical condition and above I shared about my baby but still I am interested for my 2nd child... :heartpink :heartpink

What to say !!!!!  :dunno :dunno :dunno
 
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Dori on July 11, 2017, 07:59:30 PM
This is by no means to scare you but what does your child's doctors say about the epilepsy and the thalassemia??? Do they think there is a connection. Because I have heard in the past that there is a form of thalassemia with epilepsy.....
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on July 11, 2017, 09:52:39 PM
Lokkhi,

I can't answer this. It's up to you to decide on your family size.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Lokkhi maa on July 12, 2017, 05:18:00 AM
Andy I just want to say there are lot of problems and risks but we parents are expect next child..

Its natural.. :heartpink :heartpink
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 12, 2017, 07:16:10 AM
My son is beta plus and sickle cell. he  is quite fine without transfusion in 20 months of age so I can Plan for  2nd Baby?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Lokkhi maa on July 15, 2017, 07:19:25 AM

It's all just chance.

Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on July 16, 2017, 11:32:29 PM
Mubeen, it's not possible to say the outcome wouldn't be worse, but it is likely it wouldn't be. A child could be just a carrier of either or carry neither, in addition to having the same condition as your child does now.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 17, 2017, 03:43:21 AM
They become wounds on their language, they are unable to eat food properly so his weight just 10 kg 
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 18, 2017, 04:30:30 AM
Me is carrier and my wife is sickle cell we are different category of thal our 2nd child can be a major thal? or same as 1st child beta+sickle cell?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on July 20, 2017, 10:59:52 PM
It can't be beta major. It can be the same, beta+ sickle cell or lesser, carrier of one or neither..
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 21, 2017, 04:55:05 AM
Thanks Andy.
Please Tell me can be a normal? chance is possible?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 21, 2017, 05:07:48 AM
Sickle cell and carrier both different category? child can be with major thal and beta+sickle cell and normal?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 24, 2017, 10:02:54 AM
sickle cell and beta plus patients can Iron over load? Is it possible?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on July 24, 2017, 09:50:00 PM
If transfusions are required, iron overload can occur. If the Hb is chronically low, less than 9-9.5, iron loading can take place over time.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on July 24, 2017, 11:50:05 PM
Mubeen,
There are 3 possibilities for children you might have.
1) HbE sickle cell.  25% chance.
2) Carrier of HbE, or sickle cell, but not both. 50% chance.
3) Non-carrier of either. 25% chance.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 25, 2017, 04:48:47 AM
Thanks dear for reply me
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 25, 2017, 05:46:04 PM
Can we give iron containing diet in this case? Like mango , liver. Dates
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 26, 2017, 04:31:57 AM
Dear me and my partner carrier and sickle cell . but HbE sickle cell and 
 Carrier of HbE what is this? please describe me in detail 
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on July 26, 2017, 10:08:01 PM
Mubeen, do not avoid veg foods that contain iron. There are too many other nutrients in these foods that are needed, and veg iron is not highly absorbed.

One of you carries HbE. One of you carries sickle cell. That is why your child has HbE sickle cell. Both affect the beta globin gene.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on July 27, 2017, 03:07:27 AM
Again thanks dear
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on August 01, 2017, 04:22:03 AM
not gaining weight indpite  of giving good diet, maintaining HB 8 to 9 what can be the reason? can we say his is genetically smart because parents are skinny and smart. we are much confused
 
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on August 01, 2017, 04:28:25 AM
Bone deformities can be observed in sickle beta plus Thalaseemia?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on August 01, 2017, 04:29:21 AM
Is it dangerous like major?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on August 02, 2017, 08:12:13 PM
HbE sickle cell varies greatly in outcomes. For some, transfusions are needed and for others, no blood is required. Even without the need for transfusion, when patients have lower than normal Hb levels, there can be slower growth and bone growth can also be affected. A good nutritious diet is essential. Make sure the child develops a taste for fresh fruit and vegetables.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on August 03, 2017, 05:10:39 AM
dear should we go for transfusion for better growth and weight?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on August 08, 2017, 02:28:22 AM
If the Hb maintains between 8-9, transfusions aren't usually started. Even many thal minor children have this problem of slow weight gain when young. Find healthy foods the child likes. Try things like smoothies you can make in a blender using fruits and vegetables. You can find many smoothie recipes online. Wheatgrass might also help.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on August 08, 2017, 04:21:58 AM
 5.8.2017             18.05.2017             9.05.2017

Haemoglobin                       7.9                     8.5                          8.0
haemotocrit                         22.8                   34.9                       22.5
red cell count                       3.44                   3.81                       3.45
white cell count                    10.0                   9.4                         7.7
ploymorphs                          45                      27                         40
lymphocytes                         49                      68                         55
monocytes                            04                      03                        03
eosinophils                            02                      02                        02
platelet count                        272                    326                       209
serum total bilirubin               1.9                                                 1.2
serum ALT                            18                                                   20
Serum Alkaline Phosph           198                                                292

Dear no any problem, he is very energetic and no any issues

Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on August 08, 2017, 04:45:06 AM
According to these reports child is quite well , active and happy baby. only problem is that he is not gaining sufficient weight and not interested in eating.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on August 09, 2017, 03:44:13 AM
Dear his iron value is just 48
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on August 12, 2017, 12:35:23 AM
Is that his ferritin level?

Iron loading will happen with an Hb below 9. Over time, it can even require chelation drugs to remove. Iron supplements should not be taken. They only add to the iron load.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on September 05, 2017, 04:14:28 AM
Dear please tell me what should I do for weight gain and proper growth?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on December 19, 2017, 07:32:08 AM
Please give some suggestions for CVS. Me and my Patner different trade of Thal. carrier and sickle cell and my son is sickle beta plus?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on December 22, 2017, 12:10:21 AM
CVS should be done between 10-13 weeks. Your doctor should be able to set up an appointment for you.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on December 22, 2017, 04:33:28 AM
but my question is relate to sickle cell and beta thal?
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Andy Battaglia on December 29, 2017, 12:48:45 AM
CVS is used to see if the fetus carries any of the hemoglobin disorders. It's the same for any condition that is being checked, 10-13 weeks.
Title: Re: carrier and sickle cell parents can take a chance for pregnancy?
Post by: Mubeen on January 04, 2018, 03:22:11 AM
CVS done by 2nd January and I am waiting for report that come after 15 to 20 days.  than I decide decision